Hello, and Welcome to the CanuckMom (1) , and Pusher 7 (2) Footnotes page for The Tudors Season 3 Episodes 5-8.
1: I swear I will finish The Witcher…by 31st December 2020.
2: You know who you are…I don’t, but I do know that you want me to finish The Ten Commandments. I swear I will finish The Ten Commandments…by 31st December 2020.
Well, I’ve stuck it on the footnotes page for half a season. It should be pretty hard to sidle out of that commitment. Harder than actually doing the work? I guess we’ll find out just how Henry VIII I am (I am).
Oh, and I think I’ve found an easier way to do this.
That’s it. That’s the introduction to the second half of season 3 footnotes page.
Bibliography Season 3, Episodes 5-8
Borman, Tracy, The Private Lives of The Tudors, Hodder and Stoughton, 2016
Borman, Tracy, Thomas Cromwell, Hodder and Stoughton 2014
Fraser, Antonia, The Six Wives of Henry VIII, Arrow 1998
Hutchinson, Robert, The Last Days of Henry VIII, Weidenfeld and Nicholson 2005
Schenk, Wilhelm, Reginald Pole, Cardinal of England, Longmans, Green & Co, 1950
Starkey, David, Six Wives: The Queens of Henry VIII, Vintage 2004
Weir, Alison, Henry VIII: King and Court,Pimlico 2002
British History Online: Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII Starting at Volume 12 Part 2
Episode 5: Problems in the Reformation (Part 1)
First, The Tea
1:Starkey, David, Six Wives, p608 (Letters and Papers Henry VIII, Vol 12, Part 2 item 977 – Russell to Cromwell 24/10/1537)Also Fraser, Antonia, Six Wives, p280 (the same)
Then we assassinate Pakington
2: I’m paraphrasing but here:Letters and Papers Henry VIII,Volume 11, Nov 1536, no 1092
3: Hall’s Chronicle page 824
4:The Tudor Society Online, it needs a sub, but the part from a woman who knew he imported bibles is before the break.
q: Cromwell’s Holbein portrait was destroyed after his death. Three early copies remain. This is the one from the National Gallery, London. Courtesy Wikipedia.
5: Borman, Tracy, Thomas Cromwell, p284-287
6: Borman, Tracy, Thomas Cromwell, p282-284
7:Borman, Tracy, Thomas Cromwell, p290
8: Hall’s Chronicle, p825
9: Weir, Alison, Henry VIII King and Court p408 (John Leland Collectanea – British Library)
10: Fraser, Antonia, Six Wives p282 (Halls Chronicle p825 as above)
11 Weir, Alison, Henry VIII: King and Court p251
12: Borman, Tracy, The Private Lives of The Tudors, p225
13:Borman, Tracy, The Private Lives of The Tudors p141 (Attributed to Erasmus, quoted in Southworth, J Fools and Jesters at the English Court p9)
14:Fraser, Antonia, Six Wives p281
15: Weir, Alison, Henry VIII: King and Court p409
Caserta, 1538 where we turned the gig.
Week 1.5: Nonsuch Palace
Excitingly Close to Caserta, 1538
Back at the Brandon’s for Angst
Week 2: back in the whistling apartments
16: Weir, Alison, Henry VIII: King and Court p410
17:Weir, Alison, Henry VIII: King and Court p414 (Letters and papers,April 6-10 1538, Item 696, Thomas Worley to Lady Lisle)
Episode 5: Problems in the Reformation (Part 2)
The 2DOR Office
1) Borman, Tracy, Thomas Cromwell, p277
Royal Palace Cul de Sac
2) If you’re interested, easiest to see it on a map, or maybe take a street view tour. Marlborough Road, the only available route between the Mall and the top of Pall Mall features a lot of very high, thick walls, hefty spiky metalwork, impassive blank gates and a corner of St James’ Palace. The Old Stable Yard that leads to Clarence House is not accessible. It’s a neat solution to a high security need in one of the busiest parts of one of the busiest cities in the world, but it means St James’ Palace remains largely obscured.
Pall Mall and The Mall, by the way, got their names from the Stuart royal family sport, which members played on courts set up near those roads, and maybe on the roads themselves. The Hanoverian family sport was Olympic level feuding with your heir and that happened everywhere.
Nonsuch, Not so Much
3) Fraser, Antonia, Six Wives, p287
4) Friends of Nonsuch site
Week 3: Henry “The Religious Situation” Tudor,
And the Dox Bollocks
5) Great Bible of 1540 p429 (Internet archive)
q) Weir, Alison, Henry VIII King and Court p414 (Letters and papers, April 1538, item 696, Thomas Worley to Lady Lisle) I’m having trouble believing there were 40 guys on one side, and they won against the guards, mainly because the incident is reported nowhere else other than this letter from some dude to Lady Lisle, but it’s a primary source and he quotes a lot of detail for the earlier, smaller, incidents of fighting he talks about.
Cromwell’s Got a Hessian Posse
Are the Prawns Code?
Phased Work Returns
6) Letters and papers October 1537 21st – 25th. Henry to Francis I Item 972
The Second Son
Greener Grass with Fewer Steps
Resume the Hunt
7) All found via Schenk, W, Reginald Pole: Cardinal of England
” One brainsick fool should be the ruin of so great a family” Letters and Papers September 1537 21-30 Item 795
“Make him eat his own heart” Letters and papers December 1538 11-15 (vol 13) item 1036: Cromwell’s friend Latimer reminds Cromwell he said it.
8) Letters and papers November 1538 1-5 (vol 13) item 753 a report from the French Ambassador
The Empire Strikes Back
9) Borman, Tracy, Thomas Cromwell p302
10) Borman, Tracy, Thomas Cromwell, p297
11) Borman, Tracy, Thomas Cromwell, p303
Episode 6: Search for a New Queen (Part 1)
1) If you haven’t been back since I wrote Episode 5’s recap I found some basis for those two fighting incidents I previously dissed as bollocks. It’s from Alison Weir, and she got it in a primary source in the Letters and papers ( April 1538, item 696, Thomas Worley to Lady Lisle). It was Gawen Carrow, not Gawain Carew. He wasn’t killed, he aggressively resisted arrest for something else and might have killed a yeoman, and he was one of Cromwell’s guys. The letter was written April 1538 so it happened then or just before, 5 months after Henry’s isolation period. Also I don’t trust the primary with the whole “40 guys rioting” thing, I haven’t found a reference anywhere else yet, and 40 guys on one side, the rioters win a fight at court and no one else has a note of it? Chapuys was uninterested? May well have happened but I bet it was a hell of a lot smaller.
So, it was later than The Tudors has it, (I came across it while researching something for this week) but it’s got a popular historian and primary source backing (with an awful lot of asterisks) so score one for The Tudors and Alison Weir.
What Cromwell Did
2) Borman, Tracy, Thomas Cromwell, p302-303
q) Schenk, W, Reginald Pole Cardinal of England, p82 (Letters and Papers Vol 13, Pt 2 Item 753 (5th November Castillon to Montmorency – section in french)
3) Letters and Papers Vol13 Part 2 Item 695 record of interrogation
q2) attempt 1:https://www.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol13/no2/pp263-285 Item 703 Husee to Lord Lisle
attempt 2: https://www.british-history.ac.uk/cal-state-papers/spain/vol6/no1/pp108-119 item 37 Chapuys to the emperor – right at the bottom of a long letter, Geoffery Pole is referred to in code as Master Caro.
There’s Something About Marie
4) Hutchinson, Robert, The Last Days of Henry VIII, p20 (Kulek, Jean Correspondance politique de MM. de Castillon et de Marillac, ambassadeurs de France en Angleterre (1537 – 1542), 1885)
Confusion in the Cells
Stand Up Christina
5) Letters and Papers March 1538 (Item 507 Hutton to Cromwell) account of Holbein’s visit.
An Impression of Evidence
An Evening at Court
6) Letters and Papers Vol12 Part 2 (December 1537) Item 1172
7) Starkey, David, Six Wives, p618 (Letter and papers Vol 12, Part 2 (December 1537) item 1188
8) Letters and Papers Vol 12 Part 2 (December 1537) Item 1187
The One That Got Away
9) Letters and Papers Vol 14 part 1(February 1539) Item 194
10) Letters and Papers Vol 13 Part 1 (March 1538) Item 507
11) Amyot, Thomas, Transcript of an original manuscript from George Constantyne to Lord Thomas Cromwell, Archaelogia, Volume 23 (1831). Published Online and accessed and Cambridge University Press 2012.
12) Letters and Papers Vol 14 part 1(February 1539) Item 194 right at the end.
Much to do about Tapestry
13 Schenk, W, Reginald Pole, p85 *Letters and Papers Vol 14 Part 1 (18th May 1538) item 980 John Worth to Lord Lisle
14) Schenk, W, Reginal Pole, p85 (Letters and Papers Vol 13 Part 2 Item 855)
15) Fraser, A, Six Wives p291 (Letters and papers Vol 13 Part 1 Item 583)
16) Weir Alison, Henry VIII King and Court p414 (Letters and Papers Vol 13 Part 1 – 14th May 1538 item 995)
Morning In England
Episode 6: Search For a New Queen Part 2
1: Letters and Papers 16th October 1538 Item 622 (draft 3).
2: Weir, Alison, Henry VIII King and Court p417
3: Letters and papers 14th May 1536 Item 873
4: Letters and papers 27th October 1538 Item 702 part 2.
Henry the Photophile and the Case of John Lambert
5: Fraser, Antonia Six Wives p289 ((Kulek, Jean Correspondance politique de MM. de Castillon et de Marillac, ambassadeurs de France en Angleterre (1537 – 1542), 1885 p80-81)
To Be or Not to Be
Back at Don’t Care Ranch
6: Fraser, Antonia, Six Wives, p299